I think as the numbers of women grow in the architectural profession, that there should be an increased confidence within those women. There are more role models, there are more women at the table, more women to work with. I think refinement and confidence go with that. On the other hand, there certainly are unexpected hints of backlash, that I continue to be surprised at. Dinner conversations about the feminization of architecture, bitterness of, I think, social waves that occur. I think both are happening, and one may be the result of the other, I'm not sure. So I think it's a very interesting time for a young woman ...

The interesting thing that I see that is different is men who are interested in participating and are articulate about the fact that they want to participate in rearing their families. They want to behave in a manner where there is a realizable equality of activities as well as expectations of a kind of civil rights equality-it's a real workaday involvement. I think, of men's minds ten years ago, in the same way, and I think that's very encouraging. We certainly have men with flexible schedules here[in the office] along with women with flexible schedules in order to manage their family obligations. That's interesting!